Family Group #6

David Hawkins recently agreed to make some of his Hawkins ancestry public.    He is a match to other participant who form Family Group #6.  His family tree should be of great interest to family group #6.

Group-06 Participant #493779

...1 Thomas Hawkins

…...2  William Hawkins, b. May 29, 1805 Fareham, Hampshire, England; d. Mar 1890, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England

…......3  George Hawkins, b. 1858 Porchester, Hampshire, England; d. Aug 28, 1929 Alverstoke, Hampshire, England

….........4  Earnest Hawkins, b. Nov 11, 1888 England; d. May 14, 1972, Vicksburg, Michigan USA

................5  Robert Hawkins, b. July 12, 1916 Kalamazoo, Michigan USA; d. Feb 24, 1991 Kalamazoo, Michigan USA

…................6  Participant 493779 

Why is this so helpful?  Because David's ancestors moved to these shores quite late.  Earnest Hawkins who died in Vicksburg, Michigan was born in England in 1888, so he moved probably in the early 1900s.  And David has good documentation explaining where Earnest's ancestors had lived in England for at least two or three generations.  There is at least some probability that the other Hawkins participants in this family group #6 may have had a connection to this same area of England.

Here are some maps explaining where David's ancestors lived.  The first map shows the general area in which they are found.  The red outline is the area of Southampton.



In the second map we can see where Fareham is located in this general area:



Wikipedia tells us that Alverstroke is a parish



Until the early 19th century, the parish of Alverstoke measured some 4.5 miles from north to south, and 2.5 miles from east to west, covering most of present-day Gosport. The parish still stretched north, adjoining Fareham and Titchfield parishes.,^[3] south to the Solent, east as far as Portsmouth Harbour, and west to the parish of Rowner, into the 20th century. However, large parts of the north and east of the parish were split into separate parishes between 1840 and 1913.

Autosomal evidence for John Hawkins of Wicklow

This morning I heard from Gina Meyers about her Hawkins family line connection. Her family has roots in County Wicklow, Ireland...... just south of Dublin.




 Here is information in her own words about this family:

I am descended from John HAWKINS (b.1810-d.1900) of Wicklow. John was a farmer in Cranareen, and married Mary Ellen WILSON in 1837. He had three daughters – Rebecca (my 2 x gr.grandmother), Elizabeth and Mary Ann. The family's oral history does not mention any sons.

I have speculated that John was the second child of Thomas HAWKINS and Rebecca DAGG of Rustyduff and Killibeg. My reasoning goes like this :
(i) Thomas and Rebecca are known to have a son named John b.c.1810
(ii) John's oldest daughter was named Rebecca.
(iii) John was farming in Cranareen which is “right next door” to Rustiduff.
(iv) The person who registered John's death in 1900 was Edward ALLEN, who I believe to be the son of Elizabeth HAWKINS (Thomas and Rebecca's fifth child) and Edward ALLEN.

However, I know that there is another John HAWKINS of Wicklow who emigrated to Canada and married Eliza MOORE, and it is suggested that he was the son of Thomas and Rebecca. I believe that the evidence for this is that :
(i) He also was b.c. 1810.
(ii) Other sons of Thomas and Rebecca had emigrated to the same area in Canada.
(iii) Other DAGG descendants had emigrated to the same area in Canada.
(iv) John died in 1853 in Canada. In 1855 in Ireland, Thomas - and his second wife, Mary MOODY - had a son whom they named John. It's believed that the child born in 1855 was given the name John because his older half-brother was the John who had died in Canada a year or two earlier.

I'm not aware of any paper trail which might allow us to distinguish between the two John HAWKINS men, and I hoped that DNA evidence might help to clarify which John really was the son of Thomas and Rebecca.

Autosomal DNA evidence from FTDNA and Gedmatch appears to suggest that there is a familial connection between my John and the family of Thomas and Rebecca, although it's not clear what the relationship is.

I have one match with a known descendant of Thomas and Rebecca.
I have one match with another “probable” descendant of Thomas and Rebecca.
I am aware of two known descendants of Thomas and Rebecca with whom I have no DNA match.

If I am correct in my theory that my John was the son of Thomas and Rebecca, then all the relationships here are around 4th cousin (give or take a removal) - and so absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.

I would love to know whether there are others associated with Thomas HAWKINS and Rebecca DAGG of Rustiduff and Killibeg who have tested and might be able to shed any light on the puzzle. Thomas married twice and had 25 children in total, and so there are many, many descendants out there.

With best regards,
Gina.
georgina_meyers@yahoo.com.au

If you are reading this and have interest, be sure to read the comments that follow as other researchers have added information.  I encourage all of you who belong to this family to work together and if you have updates to this post or want a new post, just let me know and I'll work with you on it. 

In 2023 I am deleting e-mails from my overfull inbox and thought I would add the following from another researcher who connects to County Wicklow:

Hi my name is Susan , I found you on a website blog about Hawkins Rustyduff  Co , Wicklow  , I had a  great grand mother  Harriet Louise Blanc Hawkins , child of William Hawkins and Harriet Taylor , , farmers of Rusty duff  , My Harriet was marry 4 times , and had many children  , but I do ? if there was maybe another Harriet , or my grandmother  did rehome one of her children  ,, she was widow many times , I descend from her third marriage , Hawkins came from Devon  and kent uk before they lived in Ireland , and we are link to the Drake family , Famous Francis Drake .

susanheffernan7@hotmail.com

Family group #2

The Participant who was sponsored by Richard Wilstead falls into family group #2.  This is also the family group that Sandi Vaught's research would lead her to believe her family would connect.  Richard's research connects him to Manoah/Noah Hawkins who died in 1814 in Montgomery County, Virginia.  His birth date is circa 1767.  Manoah/Noah was married to Susannah Reynolds.  I had been told that Susannah was born in Botetourt County, Virginia and probably the couple married there.  However, if you look at the comment below, you will see that it is unlikely that Susannah was born in Botetourt County as her father does not show up in the tax lists until 1787 and Susannah is said to have been born in 1772.

Sandi believes her family line that goes back to Jehu Dyer Hawkins born 25 Aug 1756.  Most likely scenario is that Manoah/Noah is the nephew of Jehu Dyer.  William Hawkins who died in Franklin County, Kentucky in 1818 is father of Manoah/Noah and brother to Jehu Dyer Hawkins.

Jehu Dyer Hawkins

Sandi Vaught and I are hanging out in Orange, Virginia doing Hawkins research.  Our big find of the day was the marriage bond of Jehu Dyer Hawkins Mary Gaines (widow).  The bond is dated 25th day of Oct 1780.  The couple lived in Orange County until 1780.  Next they are found in Culpeper County until 1791.  Sandi finds them next in Botetourt County, Virginia when Jehu's daughter, Elizabeth, married Thomas Parker in 1797 in Botetourt County.  Next Sandi finds them in the 1810 census record in Barren County, Kentucky.  Sandi believes they may have been in Kentucky as early as 1801. 

The huge importance of the below document is that the index calls the groom Sebree.  Jehu seems to have used both the name Jehu and the name John.   On this marriage bond he clearly spells his name as Jehu!  He did have a son who went by both the name Jehu and John.  In this son's will he calls himself John D.  We think the D stands for Dier.  

Arculous was security for the marriage.  It likely that the two men are related.  And possible that they are brothers.


Sandi's Jehu Hawkins (b. 25 Aug 1756) married the widow Mary Gaines in Orange County, Virginia 25 Oct 1780.  As far as Sandi knows this is the first use of the name Jehu in this family.  But it became a family tradition to use both the names Jehu and John in every generation after this until at least 1860.

Jehu and Mary Gaines had a son named John Hawkins who died 1812 in Barren
County, Kentucky.  He had no will, but Sandi has ascertained that he left a wife and two children when he died.  She has names for the family he left. He also had a son Jehu Dyer Hawkins b 17 December 1785.  This Jehu left a will dated 5 March 1883 in Edmonson County, Kentucky. This second generation Jehu Hawkins used the names John Hawkins and Jehu Hawkins interchangeably.  In his will he used John D Hawkins. This Jehu also
had sons Jehu D and John. Jehu 1785-1883.  The second generation son Jehu followed the family tradition naming sons Jehu Dyer and John Hawkins. In addition he also had a son named Elias B Hawkins.  Elias continued the tradition and named sons Jehu D. and John L.   To make this even more confusing another son of the first Jehu named Henry George Hawkins also had sons Jehu D. and John Henry.  And the grandson of the first Jehu who was named Henry George Hawkins also named sons Jehu D. and John B.

Autosomal DNA

I have to say that I was blown away this week by a new match on FTDNA to my own Family Finder test.  I guess that I hadn't looked in several months.  I was showing a buddy what to expect if they bought the family finder while it is on sale this week at $69.  And ....oh, my gosh,  I had a new match!  It is a new VERY close match.  The only person who matches me more closely is my MOTHER!  I was practically screaming:  Who are you?  How can someone who is that close of a match be someone that I don't know?  And the answer is that the man who is my match was adopted at birth.  He is looking for his birth parents.  And certainly his match to me tells him who his father is.  Perhaps not conclusively without some extra details about his own age, whereabouts etc....but I don't know when I have been more surprised.

The DNA is amazing!

Family Group #1

Sandi Vaught e-mailed me tonight with a few questions.  She does not have a proven connection to Family Group #1.  However as I started answering some questions that she posed, I found myself sharing with her information that would connect to Family Group #1 in Orange County, Virginia.  Rather than just answer her privately, I wanted to post some of this information for future referral as I believe that it is possible that it may have some clues for me in my personal research.

I will put Sandi's connection in this spot after I receive permission from her and after I get my head straight about her line.

So first question she asked:

I still want to know who these Wm Hawkins are:

Wm Hawkins that lived on Cook’s Run 1742-1748 and seems to be listed as in the fork of the Pamunkey (NorthAnna) in 1752?

So I rummaged in my data bases and began to answer:

Ok….let me think about this….If he is on the Pamunkey,/North Anna, he is in Orange or Louisa.  I will assume Orange since you are most interested in that county.  Could it say the North fork of the Pamunkey?  That is the other name for the North Anna….and changes what I think….if he is in the fork, I would think that it would mean literally that place where the N. Anna and S. Anna meet….but if it says the North Fork of the Pamunkey, I think that it might have been anywhere along the North Anna….And that is VERY interesting to me!



This is not the William who was the son of Benjamin and Sarah Willis.  That son would not have been old enough yet.  I think it unlikely that any of the orphans of John and Elizabeth (Butler?) Hawkins would have had children old enough to have been this man.  He could have been the William who was a brother to Benjamin Hawkins who married Sarah Willis…..that is the orphan William who we call the plasterer.  What do I know about him?  Not a whole lot.  Others have told me that his wife’s name was Elizabeth.

Here is what I have in my data base…..remember VERY iffy!

Craig Kilby believes that the Will of William Hawkins of Orange County dated 20 Jan 1776 is that of this man.  Wanita also guessed that the will may have belonged to this man. He names son, John, Wife Elizabeth, son, William, and son Benjamin.   Uriel Mallory and Wm Strother and Thomas Brown are witnesses.

I am adding this interpretation of the will March 2005:

This is an abstract of the will of William Hawkins of the County of Orange and Parish of Sat. Thomas, being weak in body, dated 20 Jan. 1776.

Unto my son John Hawkins two cows and calves whenever he leaves of overseeing and goes to house keeping.

To my beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins all the residue of my estate during her natural life and after her decease to be divided as follows:

Unto my son William Hawkins twenty shillings sterling if he should be living at the time of my decease and if dead to descend to my son John Hawkins.

Unto my son Benjamin Hawkins one shilling current money.

Unto my son John Hawkins all the rest of my estate. 

My beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins executrix and my son John Hawkins executor.  William Hawkins

Wit: Uriel Mallory, Wm Strother, Thomas Brown

Proved 24 Oct 1776

Ok my notes say that this William was probably the son of John Hawkins and Elizabeth Butler--brother to Benjamin Hawkins (Benj1) who married Sarah Willis.

Wanita says:

Dear Marsha,

…...

I thought that the sons--William, and Benjamin, named in the will are probably the William hawkins noted later with a will of about 1795, and the Benjamin with a will of 1782, and wife, Juda.  That is also an assumption, as the dates and l,ocations seem to fit.  I know others have made other deductions. Several claim the son, John went to N C?

Wanita 

John is said to have died in 1716 in Richmond county, virginia.  It seems that he died young as he his will provides for young children.  Placing them with other men to provide that they will learn skills to use for their livlihood.  He specifically asks Henry Wood to take William (husband of Sarah Willis Wood Hudson Tuberville) to teach him the trade of plaster.  So this William would have been born in either the end of the 1600's or the first decade of the 1700's.  Which is a likely time for man dying in 1776.  The thing that catches my attention here  is the witnesses.  I believe that my Benjamin and Thomas Hawkins lived very close to Mallory's Ford....Then certainly we know that the Hawkins/Bourne line was entertwined with the Strother family---Moses married and had children with Susannah Strother--her father was named William Strother and it is very likely her father who is acting as witness here.  So it makes sense that this William is indeed the brother of Benj1. 

Ok, below is a map that I lifted from:  http://virginia.hometownlocator.com/maps/feature-map,ftc,1,fid,1465197,n,cooks%20creek.cfm

The red arrow points to a creek that is now called Cooks Creek (not Run)....but only Cooks Creek/Run in Orange.

Oh, my gosh, Sandi, that is soooooooo close to where my Thomas R. Hawkins' uncle Benjamin lived.   “On the thirtieth day of October, in the year 1813, seventeen males and an unknown number of females, met in the home of Brother Hawkins, about three and a half miles south of Orange.

And then when My Thomas R. Hawkins married she second wife, Martha Bibb, she pays a debt to obtain land on the North Anna River at Mallory's Ford:

 it being the same tract or parcel of land sold under a deed of Trust executed by the said Thomas R. Hawkins to John Scott to secure a debt to the late John Heaston and purchased by John Ellis as trustee under the said marriage settlement for the benefit of the said Martha P. Hawkins and conveyed by deed bearing the date the 18th day of March 1847 duly recorded in the Lerk’s Office of Orange County Court by John Scott trustee as aforesaid the said John Ellis for the use and benefit of the said Martha P. Hawkins and paid for out of the funds secured to her, by the said settlement. 

 It seems to me that this implies that this land has been in the Hawkins family and that Martha is just paying off the debt in order to obtain ownership of the land again.  Martha and Thomas Hawkins live on that land for the rest of Martha's life.  She pays taxes on it for many years and then sells it to her husband for $1 before she died.  Maybe my own Hawkins family is connected to William the plaster instead of Benjamin and Sarah Willis!  

There would be another generation in between this William and uncle Benjamin.  But it would narrow fathers to:  John, Benjamin and William....almost no help at all, huh?  Still it is very interesting. 

OK next William:

Wm Hawkins that lived on Blackwalnut Run, Mine Run, bound Wm Strother and Thos Morrison. 1772-1782?

(land Wm and Elizabeth Hawkins sold to Wm Pannell Son of the above, Elisha Hawkins witnessed)

What where their connection to Wm Pannell and Sarah Bailey.? Just chance?

Ok, let me think some more......Ok, Benjamin and Sarah Willis's sons are old enough to have owned land by this date and the fact that son Moses married Susannah Strother makes them most likely candidates for this William....that is the William who married Jane Bourne is most likely candidate to have land near Wm Strother.  However, I do not have an Elisha Hawkins among the Hawkins/Bourne family....that doesn't mean that there isn't one that I don't know.

I have two Elisha Hawkins's in my John and Mary NOTLong data base (remember iffy!).  One is Elisha Son of William and Elizabeth Wall (William died c.1799)who married Elizabeth Edwards (daughter of Uriah who made some kind of alcoholic beverage at home instead of attending his daughter's wedding according to Milly Farmer)

Jehu is mentioned in my notes for this Elisha:

Elisha moved to Ky and  it is thought that Elizabeth did not accompany them.  It is  not known if she died or just didn’t want to leave Virginia.  

Jehu also gave a deposition in Elisha Hawkins application both living in Franklin County, KY.  Elisha's statement says:

 "but I only know of one person now living that I can prove my

service: Mr Jehu Hawkins. I was once on furlough to my recollection being sick permitted to return home & he went back to the army with me on private business

 I remember thinking while I was reading Jehu's deposition that he knew lots of details about the service of Elisha (Elijah).

On page 114 of Milly Farmer’s book there is a sworn declaration from Rebecca that her husband served in the Revolutionary war with brother Elisha in regiment of Col John Spotswood under Capt Francis Taylor.  

The other Elisha in my data base is the son of Reuben Hawkins and Rebecca Edwards.  Rebecca Edwards is a sister to Elizabeth Edwards who married who married the other Elisha.  Could this be right?  But both brides seem to be daughters of Uriah Edwards.  And this second Elisha may have been named after his father's brother, Elisha.....BUT one Elisha is a different generation from the other while the brides are sisters....something seems inconsistent.  Do you have corrections for my ideas?

The last Wm Hawkins is one that is the indentured slave, his master was Edward Pigg. 

I can only say that I do not know anything about this last Wm Hawkins nor do I know anything about Edward Pigg.  Anyone else have any ideas?   

Deeds on both sides of the Rapidan River in Virginia

Many of us who are part of Hawkins DNA group #1 expect to connect back to the Culpeper/Orange County area in the early to mid 1700s.  We have been chatting about how to sort out the various Williams, Johns, and Benjamins.  And I think that all agree that deeds can be helpful.  So I propose that we begin to type in the deeds for both Culpeper and Orange County as one county is north of the Rapidan and the other county is south of the Rapidan.  A likely place to settle if you are moving up the Rappahannock River from Richmond County into new neighborhoods.


1764  [this abstraction is taken from: Culpeper County, Virginia Deeds Volume Three       1762-1765 abstracted and Compiled by John Frederick Dorman
Culpeper pages 557-62.  10 Oct. 1764.  William Hawkins and Elizabeth his wife of Brumfield Parish, Culpeper County, to Martain Nalle and William Duncan, gent, Church Wardens of Brumfield Parish.  For 130 pounds of current money.  355 acres for a Glebe for the parish for the use and benefit of the incumbent of the parish and his successors....on Devil's Run being a part of 785 acres granted to Frances Thornton, Gent., of Caroline County by deed from the Proprietor's Office 23 Jan 1747 [1748] and by Thornton sold to William Buckner, gent, and by Buckner sold to William Hawkins....on the road to Devil's Run at the bridge, a corner to James Sims.....up the road....corner to James Sims in Doctor Thomas Houison's line....corner to James Johnson and Samuel Coleman....corner to Thomas Kennerlei's deed on a branch side....

                                                                  William Hawkins
                                                                   Elizabeth (X) Hawkins
Wit: Thomas Covington, John Sanders, James McDonald, Richard Parks.
18 Oct 1764.  Acknowledged by William, Elizabeth was first privily examined

Ok....so where was this land on which William and Elizabeth Hawkins lived?  [interesting enough Martain Nalle lived on Devil's Run when he died in 1788 according to FindaGrave]  Here are two maps that help locate this waterway:

And here is a modern map

And who is this William Hawkins living in Culpeper in 1764?  Did he later move down into Orange County and have the will (wife Elizabeth):

This is an abstract of the will of William Hawkins of the County of Orange and Parish of Sat. Thomas, being weak in body, dated 20 Jan. 1776.

Unto my son John Hawkins two cows and calves whenever he leaves of overseeing and goes to house keeping.

To my beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins all the residue of my estate during her natural life and after her decease to be divided as follows:

Unto my son William Hawkins twenty shillings sterling if he should be living at the time of my decease and if dead to descend to my son John Hawkins.

Unto my son Benjamin Hawkins one shilling current money.

Unto my son John Hawkins all the rest of my estate. 

My beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins executrix and my son John Hawkins executor.  William Hawkins

Wit: Uriel Mallory, Wm Strother, Thomas Brown

Proved 24 Oct 1776

Or is he an entirely different William Hawkins?



The next deeds are my own transcriptions.  I sat in the Orange County courthouse years ago.  At the end of the day, I remember thinking that the people who did transcriptions of records do not charge enough for their books....I would need huge amounts of money to do that job every day.

May 28, 1767
A portion of land owned by John Spotswood was seized at his death for repayment of debts.  Guardians of John's son, Alexander, are selling the seized land for best possible price.  Benjamin Hawkins is buying part of the said estate land.
Description:  Lying in County of Orange and bounded as follows:  Beginning at a gum and poplar white oak stumps on the Rapidan River corner to Mrs. Willis thence with her lines south sixty one degrees East One Hundred and Ten Poles to a locust thence with thirty six degrees East Forty Eight poles is a locust.  Thence South Sixty two degrees east thirty eight poles to a red oak thence North fifty nine degrees East seventy two pols to ????Thence south Fifty degrees....to two persimmons....to corner of said Willis and Waugh....thence up that branch with Francis Moore.

Family Group #3

Patty Martin shared a breakthrough on her family line.  Her line connects to Family Group #3.  Her cousin did the yDNA testing that shows their connection to family group #3.  It is kit #371386.   Below is information that Patty shared with me about her family.  However, the new breakthrough is actually via an autosomal test that Patty took through Ancestry:

  

The DNA test matches I got pretty recently were actually a match with my own test from several years ago on Ancestry.

One match is with a participant who descends from a brother, Michael Hawkins,  of my ggg grandfather David Hawkins of McMinn Co. Tn.  Both brothers were sons of Joseph Hawkins, McMinn Co. Tn. This match descends from Julius J. Hawkins who married Elizabeth Jane Brown.  They married in Murray Co. Ga. in 1875, but moved on to Texas about 1880 where they remained.

Originally I had found David Hawkins living next door to Joseph Hawkins in the census of 1830 McMinn, Tn....My David was the right age to be Joseph's son. David moved from McMinn county before 1836 to Union County Ga. as he is in Union County in the 1840 census with his family. Records from Union County show he was one of several commissioners, active in forming Union as a new county from the time the Indians were run out. At the time, commissioners were the decision makers.  He lived in the Blairsville area.  

The other DNA match to me was with a descendant of Joseph Hawkins sister, Ann Hawkins McKenny. The tree information from the person who matches, says this Joseph Hawkins was the one who married Susannah Williams.

Below is the information that Patty shared about her Hawkins family:

Our 2nd great grandfather is Washington J. Hawkins. I have family pictures, and know his grave site in Cullman County, Alabama,  Arkadelphia Baptist Church cemetery.  He and his wife Rebecca L.Payne Hawkins lived there from about 1870 until their deaths. He died Feb, 1914. Before 1870, He lived in Cherokee Co. Alabama for a time, and his wife was from there.   He was born about 1834 in Ga and I find him in the Georgia census for Murray Co. age 16  a son of David Hawkins and Margaret--- ?.  I have found no concrete info other than that. I find no info on her.  I do believe however that David (born abt 1804) may possibly be the son of Joseph Hawkins and Susannah Williams, who were from McMinn Co. Tn.  In the census records there is a David Hawkins living next to a Joseph in McMinn Co. 1830 and David's children show the correct amt. of children who's ages match. There are Pack families  also in this census, living nearby.

If this is the one, then I found some info on David's sister, Artilissie, who married a Thomas Pack. Other trees show she had a brother David, and Joseph and Susannah the parents. One tree gave note that some of the Pack family had family records suggesting some of the these Hawkins and Packs moved into Georgia "after the Indians were run out"..I was hoping someone related to them has done the test and we could confirm a match. ... I find little info on David, whom I believe died around 1870 or after in Walker Co. Ga (after Walker was formed from Murray Co.) I have found a few land records online, and the last census, I believe 1870 he was living with his son Marion Hawkins there.....

Washington Hawkins applied for a Confederate pension in Alabama which shows his birth as June 5, 1836 in Union County, Georgia. He served as private, 154th Tn. Senior  Regiment of the Infantry, under Capt. Charles D. Cooney, Company F.  He enlisted in Randolph, Tennessee  on May 14, 1861.  He is described as 5 ft. 8 inches,  with dark hair, dark complexion, and blue eyes.

In the census of 1900, and 1910 Washington stated his father was born in Tennessee and his mother in Ga.  The McMinnville Tn. census 1820 has a David Hawkins with one dau. and wife.  living next to Joseph Hawkins and Jeremiah Pack and the Stansbury families.  I am curious as to how this Joseph and David are related. [Remember that this question has been answered]

   I am missing the census of 1860 for Washington, and I haven't been able to find it.  I found a W.J. Hawkins in Texas, but don't think its him. As for David Hawkins, he is found 1860 in Walker Co. Ga. and living with his eldest son, Frances Marion Hawkins, older brother of Washington.

Patty shared a link to Find a grave that has information about her Washington Jones Hawkins and some of his family:

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=9995994#.VPNQVhHMCvA.gmail

And another discovery was found in a deed:

I have had one important discovery that confirmed my findings regarding my ancestor David Hawkins. Just this week,  I found a record in McMinn Co. Tn. where he sold land.  Date is Oct. 27, 1838, and reads: "David Hawkins of Union County, Georgia,  to John Torbert, place where Thomas Polk now lives, line between Jeremiah Polk and said Hawkins." 

info comes from www.tngenweb.org/records/mcminn/landpg5-67.htm

Previously I was not certain that my David was the one from McMinn Co.  I only knew he was born in Tn.

David's son, Washington Hawkins, is my gg grandfather and in his confederate pension application, he stated he was born in Union County, Ga. on June 5, 1836

David is found in the 1840 census of Union County, Georgia.

David is found in the 1850 census of Murray County, Georgia, and son, Washington is 14 years old.  I have a lot of information on the other children of David Hawkins and their families.

  

I am confident now, that this David Hawkins of Union Co. Ga. is indeed the one from McMinn Co. and further that he is the son of Joseph Hawkins and Susannah Williams of McMinn Co. The parents, and his sisters and one brother, Michael, all lived in the area at least in the beginning.  One of David's sisters, Mary, married Adam Burger.  Another Sister, Artilissie, married Thomas Pack.  Also the Stansbury families in the area are related by marriage through 2 of Artilissie's daughters, who married Stansbury's.

I have found so many trees that mistakenly show a David Hawkins and wife Margaret Alley as the same ones-  but this is not right...this David Hawkins was in Missouri by 1850, and his children are not the same children as in my line.

If you have information to share with Patty or questions, you may reach her via e-mail:  pattymartin.al@gmail.com

The photo below is Washington J. Hawkins.  He is Patty's 2-gr-grandfather who died in Cullen County, Alabama in 1914.

  

Family Group #1

While I was working on doing some sort of updated overview of our Hawkins DNA family group #1, I realized that while Julia Norton and I have chatted for many years, I haven't chosen a subgroup for her family line.  It is a subgroup of it's own.  I wanted to put a bit of information that I have received from Julia over the years into a blog post to share with some of the participants in case they see something of interest.

First, as with the Buncombe County group, Julia's Hawkins family was in Bedford County, Virginia 1810-1820.  Her early family seems to have a John Hawkins married to a woman named Winnie (who is NOT Winnie Ford)

Silas, served as a private for 6 months about 1812 in the War of 1812.  He appears along side his brother, Benjamin in the Virginia Militia in the War of 1812, Vol. I.  He received a land grant in Kentucky for his service.

The daughter's of John and Winnie married into the Cargill, Baine, Davis, and  Miles families

The family next moves to Henry County, Kentucky.  The names there are still John and Winnie but also Silas and Richard Hawkins.  Julia descends from Silas.

John, Jr. lived in Jessamine County for the 1810 census.  His sister married James Davis in 1813 (perhaps on a visit to John, her brother).

Next comes Breckinridge Kentucky:

 Breckinridge County, KY

> Jefferson Hawkins 1829-circa 1939

Next:

Perry County, Indiana

> before 1820  Harry, Fred and Tom Hawkins --Fred remained until  1970

The family then moved to Jefferson County, Alabama and has remained in that area to the present.

Here is a transcription of the will of John Hawkins who was married to Winnie:

proved Henry County KY  about 1824

Will of John Hawkins, 30 July 1824-

"In the name of God, Amen. I, John Hawkins of the County of Henry and State of Kentucky, being aged and infirm in body, but of sound mind and memory and knowing that it is appointed for man [unreadable words], do make and declare this writing to be my last Will and Testament.

First, my soul here, and hereafter I ernestly recomend and commit to the care and control of the God of Heaven and as to the estate with which I am blessed and to which I am entitled I give and bequeath as follows.

To wit:

First I give my son John Hawkins, One Dollor and no more.

Second, I give an bequeath to my son William Hawkins, One Dollor and no more.

Third, I give and bequeath to my son Moses Hawkins, One Dollor and no more.

Fourth, I give and bequeath to my son Elijah Hawkins, One Dollor and no more.

Fifth, I give and bequeath to my daughter Sarah Baine, wife of John Baine, One Dollor and no more.

Sixth, I give and bequeath to my son Jesse Hawkins, One Dollor and no more.

Seventh, I give and bequeath to my son James Hawkins, One Dollor and no more.

I will and direct my executors herein after names so so on can be done to sell:

The whole of my estate be it real and personal ( except one bed and furniture which I give to my daughter Milly Miles and except also one other bed and furniture which I give to my grand-daughter Elizabeth Hawkins and the money arising from the sale aforesaid to be applied to the payment of the legacies contained in the items 1,2,3,4,5,6, and 7 afore mentioned and the balance after paying said seven legacies first afore said to be equally divided between my children to wit: Benjamin Hawkins, Richard Hawkins, Silas Hawkins, Elizabeth Davis, wife of James Davis and Milly Miles, wife of John Miles share and share alike.

Whereas my old wife Winny Hawkins may live longer that myself, in that case my will and direction is that out of the proceeds of my estate and before any legacy shall be paid or money divided, that my executors secure to her, my said wife such ample competency as shall be fully sufficent for her care, support and maintenence, during her life, and after death then the legacies herein after Richard Hawkins and John Miles is paid for taking care of my wife Winny Hawkins, the residue to be divided between my children Benjamin Hawkins, Richard Hawkins, Elizabeth Davis, Milly Miles as above directed.

Lastly I appoint my son Richard and my son-in-law, John Miles, my executors of this my last Will and Testament.

Whitness my hand and seal this 30th day of July 1824."

John Hawkins (seal) (his mark)

Attest-

Thomas (his mark) Bryant, Edward Bryant

Family Group #1

This blog post is about the subgroups of Family Group #1.  I still have some confusion in my mind about a few of the connections of our participants, so please if you see mistakes or have additional thoughts on this, e-mail me and let me know.  Also, if you would actually like to have your name and e-mail attached to the information so that others can get in touch with you, please let me know that as well.  At this date we have 35 participants who are a part of Hawkins DNA group #1.

I'll put kit #25399 in his own subgroup first as his Hawkins family never left the British Isles and he still lives in London, England.  More proof that our Hawkins connection is in the British Isles.

The next subgroup believe that they descend from Benjamin and Sarah Willis Hawkins who were born in Richmond County, Virginia and moved to the Culpeper/Orange area of Virginia where they raised their children in the mid 1700s.  These participants believe that they descend from one of the four sons of Benjamin and Sarah Willis Hawkins. Kit #9933 and kit #34714 descend from son James who married Jane Bourne.  Kit #77663 and #178253 and #8356 have ties to son William who married Elizabeth Bourne. And kit #576481 descends from Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne through their son, Abraham.   Most of this group moved to Kentucky at the end of the Revolutionary War.

6 of the participants do not carry the surname Hawkins.  I became interested in two of these surnames about the same time so they make up one subgroup that I think of as Glass/Cullen because the families lived in the same general area of NJ.  There is a birth incident for these ancestors as there is no doubt that these men have Hawkins ancestry despite their surnames.   Kits #141001, 229108, 221494, carry the Glass surname.  Kit #212366 carries the Cullen surname.  I wrote an article about these connections back in the day in which Phil Hawkins was publishing a Hawkins newsletter.  The article can be read at:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hawkinsdnaproject/temp/dna.nsltr11-11_30nov2011.pdf

This next subgroup that I am going to call FG#1Buncombe. These participants seem to connect to Benjamin Hawkins with wife Hannah who lived in Buncombe County, NC c1750 on land that is now a part of the Biltmore Estate.  This includes Dot's son, Inez's participant and Janice's James who was in Buncombe County before moving to Bradley County, TN.   I have explained this subgroup in my post written May 18.  This subgroup contains kits#76532 (Diane Robinson's participant), #68105 (Dot's son),      There is some thought that this line may descend from William, the brother of the Benjamin above who married Sarah Willis.  Both men were the orphans of John and Elizabeth (Butler?) Hawkins who died in an epidemic in Richmond County Virginia c.1715/16.

The next subgroup I am putting close to the Buncombe group as I think that there is a chance that they could connect.  This is Julie Norton's three kits:  #11301, #395294, and #95267.  It is also Don Hill's kit #324116.

The next subgroup I have taken to calling the Short Mountain group.  It is a Hawkins group that is found in the area of TN in the 1800s that is made up of the counties of Warren, Dekalb and Cannon all of which share Short Mountain.  The kits that make up this group are #130445 which is Elaine's participant and  #516763 (Bret)

 You can read about this group at:

http://hawkinsdna.blogspot.com/2017/01/family-group-1-short-mountain-subgroup.html
and
http://hawkinsdna.blogspot.com/2017/01/hawkins-autosomal-dna-matches-in-family.html

Next group I will call McMinn County, TN.  I am not clear if these participants are a match to either the Short Mountain group or the Buncombe County group, so I'll just keep them their own subgroup until we have all done more research.  This is Nancy Pack's kit #59402 and Truman Glen Hawkins who does not seem to have joined our group.  However, I don't want to loose him.  He connects to Raleigh Hawkins who was a brother to Nancy Pack's John Hawkins.

http://hawkinsdna.blogspot.com/2016/08/family-group-1.html

The eleven participants that I have not yet put into subgroups are:

#8356 who is my dad.  My research does not take me back far enough yet to join a subgroup.  I am happy to update this April 2021 to say that I have moved my dad's results into the subgroup that descends from Benjamin and Sarah Willis Hawkins through their son Willam.  WOO HOO!  brick walls falling down!

I will do more updating....but not tonight.
#130445 whose geography would fit with my dad and also with the Buncombe County group
#86330 for whom I seem to have very little information
#18007 Kentucky and Illinois
#59402 (Nancy Pack),
 #435026 Cherokee Mike
#314251 Julius Caesar Hawkins III
#18007 Phil French/Olyve 
#46458 (Janice Blackhurst's Participant)
#46919 descends from Joseph Hawkins (1810-1867) who is associated with McMinnville TN. #59402 is associated with a Benj Hawkins b. 1750 in NC and died in 1826 in TN.  This Benjamin Hawkins married Molly Taylor.

(Cheyenne has told me that she recognizes Joseph and Benjamin Hawkins and that Joseph was the son of Benjamin who married Molly Taylor...but then clarified that this is just by age...no actual proof of the relationship)

Can anyone help me fill in some of these blanks?

Family Group #1

I get updates on the Ancestry site of Nancy Pack about her Hawkins family which connects to Family Group #1.  I have seen a transcription of the will of her ancestor, Benjamin Hawkins, who died in McMinn County, TN in 1827.  Nancy gave me permission to post it on this site so that others might benefit from the information in the will:

Last Will and Testament of Benjamin Hawkins

The Last Will and Testament of Benjamin Hawkins.
In the name of God, Amen. I, Benjamin Hawkins of the State of Tennessee and McMinn County, being in a low state of health, but in my perfect senses and memory and calling to mind things that might take place in my body and being desirous to dispose of my worldly property that God has blessed me with as follows _____first I recommend my soul to Almighty God that gave it and my body to be decently buried at the discretion of my Friends.

First, all my lawful debts to be paid out of my property.

Second, I will and bequeath all my property both real and personal to my beloved wife, Mary Hawkins, and to my daughter, Polly Hawkins, during their natural life - and my wife shall choose one of her children to take care of her and her daughter, Polly, during their life, then I will and bequeath one half of all my property real and personal to the one that takes care of them and the other half to be equally divided among all my lawful children. Only I will and bequeath to my Grand Daughter, Nancy Templeton, one bed and the clow (covers?) belonging to it .
And lastly, I do hereby constitute and appoint my son, James Hawkins and my son, Benjamin Hawkins, Executors of this my last Will and Testament revoking all other wills and testaments heretofore made. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 28th day of December, 1827.

Signed: Benjamin Hawkins (his mark)

Signed sealed and publickly (sic) delivered to be the last Will and Testament of the above named Benjamin Hawkins in the presence of us at his request and in his presence have hereunto subscribed our names as Witnesses of the same in Test.

Signed: John Walker
Signed: Levine L. Sale 193 3 May 1831 Cause heard in Chancery Court. James, Benjamin, William, John, Joseph, Rolla, and Polly Hawkins, David Newman and wife, Sally, formerly Hawkins, john Campbell and wife Blanche late Hawkins, Greenville, William, Nancy and Polly Templeton, children of John Templeton and wife Nancy, late, Hawkins are complainants and heirs of Benjamin Hawkins for land in McMinn Co.

it was transcribed by Dorothy Smith Duff Dec. 26, 2001 from Tennessee State Library and Archives, Microfilm Roll No. 104, Will Book A, page 117

Nancy Hawkins Pack descends from this Benjamin's son John Hawkins. Nancy's  familyfinder cousin  Truman Glen Hawkins descends from John's brother Raleigh.  John and Raleigh were the two sons who migrated to Dekalb Co. Alabama  about 1835.  They have many descendants living there today.  Some descendants went to Arkansas and Texas.  Nancy was kind enough to also share the Chancery Court case that is mentioned in the above:

(Nancy believes that Dorothy Smith Duff also gets credit for the transcriptions of the below)
   


and last but not least deeds that Nancy has shared:

Short Mountain TN Hawkins family group #1

In August 2024, I am adding to this blog post about the Hawkins line that belongs to Bret Hawkins and is found on Short Mountain in the area around Cannon County, TN.  If you continue to scroll down you will find more photos and documents that Bret has shared with our group.  Bret is a member of Family group #1 of the Hawkins yDNA project.

From Bret:  Joseph and Susannah Petty Hawkins are my 4th great grandparents. After 5 known generations of my direct Hawkins family living in Spotsylvania, VA- they ( Joseph and

 Susannah ) went to Madison county, KY. Joseph and Susannah stayed there for 10 years, and married off 4 of their children ( including my 3rd great grandparents, John and Mary Polly Tinney Hawkins ) then dropped down to Short Mountain, Tennessee. They ( my direct Hawkins line )  lived there for over 170 years. Most of the Short Mountain "natives" who still live there are my cousins. I live only 30 miles from there now, attend church there, and spend 1 to 2 days a week cleaning and repairing headstones at my family's cemeteries. Susannah Petty Hawkins is buried up there, but her grave marker is long gone, and I don't know which of the unmarked Hawkins graves is hers. Elaine Campbell is related to me by one of my Hawkins great aunts, Susannah Hawkins ( named after her mother ) who married William Campbell ( one of the four Madison county, KY Hawkins marriages ) and also came to Short Mountain. Hawkins and Campbell graves pepper the mountain. In the early 1900's ( between 1900 and 1910 ) most of my male Hawkins kin moved from Short Mountain to Texas, and my grandfather moved to neighboring Rutherford county, TN.  I was born in Rutherford County, TN.  . But my heart and soul is still with Short Mountain. Two of my Hawkins aunts remained there, we would have our Hawkins reunions up there, and I would visit them all the time. It's a magic place to me.

Below is  Our church, the New Short Mountain Church ( non-denominational ) on the mountain

Next photo below is:   The old Denby house ( John Denby was married to Elizabeth Hawkins, and they had many Hawkins/ Denby get togethers at this home when it was in it's prime ) 

Next photo below is:   me standing between my wife Teresa's and our headstones at Melton cemetery on the mountain

And next below:  Left to right me, my wife Teresa, and Short Mountain cousins Kent Blanton, Melanie Nistad, and Nathan Lorance. We call ourselves the Short Mountain Historical and Preservation Society, and we work hard to keep our Short Mountain history alive. It's extraordinary.   

  



Bret was kind enough to send along some documents that he has in his possession that include information about the Hawkins families that were living on Short Mountain in Cannon County and in the surrounding counties in the 1820s and on into the present time.  Let me know if you have more documents to add or if you can add interpretation of what I have put on this blog post.  I'll start with photos.  They are WONDERFUL!  Here is what Bret said about the photos that he took when he visited the land on which his family lived:


On and around Short Mountain. The leaning headstone is my gg grandfather's. It's facing Short Mt. You can see a section of it in the distance. On the left you can see my ggg grandfather's headstone. It faces our beloved Short Mt also, as does all my kin buried here. This cemetery is on private land, next to their barn. They do not mind family coming to visit.Our Short Mountain tour a while back was a wonderful experience. We found the grave sites of Joseph T and Eliza Hawkins ( my great great grandparents ) buried in the shadow of Short Mt at the Banks Presbyterian Church and Cemetery. Many of their children are buried there too. 

 Kent Blanton's father ( the Blanton's married into us )in his 80's, remarked how much me and my cousins who joined us for the trip, looked like all the Hawkins he knew growing up on the mountain. Since then, I have made 2 more trips up there, and have found my great great, and great great great, grandparents on my father's mother's side, W.W. Masey and his parents, Micajah and Mary Masey. Micajah's ( pronounced "my cage ah" ) headstone has fallen over and broke in half, and I plan to fix that. They are buried at the Preston Cemetery, and his headstone is facing the peak of Short Mt. I have become all become almost certain that John Hawkins was Joseph T. Hawkins' dad, and therefore my third great grandfather, as he had a land grant for a 100 acre section of Short Mt, right in between the 2 peaks. Relatives of mine had grants for the rest of the mt.

 I have other cousins who I have found through DNA matches that are coming from Virginia and New York in May to visit their ancestral home. One thing is for sure... at least 5 generations of my Hawkins family ( my father, his father, his father, his father, and his father: Jessie Allen, Willie Richard, Joseph Irvin, Joseph T. and John ) all lived on Short Mountain. They were farmers and moonshiners, settled that area, helped create Mechanicsville ( a small hamlet at the base of Short Mt) , started the Short Mt Methodist Church, and many of my Hawkins cousins are still up there. I grew up visiting my aunts and uncles on Short Mt, all the way up to the late 70's. Then all my immediate Hawkins passed away. But it has reclaimed me. The pull is strong. I get up there as often as I can  (it's an hour drive from my house ).  If you scratch Short Mountain soil, us Hawkins bleed











Bret said:

 I make Short Mountain trips quite frequently these days, but I forget to take a camera.  Short Mountain is in Cannon county, but it's a stone's throw to the Dekalb county, and it was originally a part of Warren county. I know a lot of folks get confused by all this. It is confusing. It a small, rural area, and it is, to this day, almost entirely a farming community. Moonshining became legal a while back ( if you can't beat em.... ) , but it's still a "dry" county. It is like stepping back in time up there.


And next starts the documents:

Here is what Bret says about these documents:

These are Baptism records from the Short Mountain Methodist Church, and one of the oldest documents of Short Mt- all the names you see, including John Hawkins, were the original settlers of Short Mountain. I am related, one way or another, to about half of them.

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Short Mountain Methodist Church Register

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Short Mountain original families:  Hawkins, Ferrell, Gunter, etc

The following I am adding in 2019 from Brett:

Here's my direct line to Short Mountain that I'm 100% on:

1. 4th great grandparents- Joseph Hawkins 1738-1803, born in Spotsylvania, VA died Madison county KY and Susannah Petty Hawkins 1750-1823

2. 3rd great grandparents- John Hawkins about 1771-about 1845, born in Spotsylvania, VA, died Illinois. Census and Tax records have him in Warren county, TN 1808, 1812, and 1820 thru 1830, and Mary 'Polly' Tinney Hawkins 1779- 1835. 

3. 2nd great grandparents- Joseph T. Hawkins July 27 1810- Aug 30, 1868- and Eliza Jones Hawkins Oct 31, 1813- April 30, 1885. Both born, died, and buried on Short Mountain ( Warren and Cannon county ). I visit their graves at Banks cemetery often. 

4. Great grandparents- Joseph Irvin Hawkins Feb 1847- 1919 and Florence Burger Hawkins March 31, 1849- Feb 5, 1940. Both born and buried on Short Mountain ( Melton cemetery ) My wife and I will be buried at Melton, just up the hill from my great grandparents and surrounded by my Short Mountain kin. 

5. Grandparents- Willie Richard Hawkins Oct 27, 1883- Dec 15, 1962 and Dartha Masey Hawkins Dec 9, 1883- Feb 25, 1970. Both born on Short Mountain and buried in Murfreesboro, Tn.

If any of my Short Mountain kin are reading this, my cousins and I go up there very 

often ( I live just about 35 miles from there ) to tend our family's graves and to share research. One of my Warren county Hawkins cousins is Cheryl Watson Mingle, the 

head of the Genealogy dept at Magness library in McMinnville, and President of the Warren County Genealogy Group. We are on facebook if anyone would like to join us there.