So first fact is that Joanna and Jim Barnes and Patrick Hawkins are all autosomal dna matches. I have not checked to see if their matches are all on the same segment of the same chromosome yet of if they are matches to each other but not in the same spot. I will add that information when we have figured that out.
Joanna sent me some Hawkins/Barnes marriages that she found on Family Search:
Willis Hawkins married Polly Barnes Jan 23 1800 in Mercer Co. Signed by Willis Hawkins and William Barnes jr. Consent given by her father William Barnes, witnessed by William Barnes Jr and Reuben Barnes.
Mary Hawkins and Zachariah Barnes. application for a license submitted 1/29/1816, issued 1/30/1816 in Mercer co. Signed by his father James Barnes and acknowledged by Joseph and Richard Barnes and John
Application for Nathan Hawkins and Margaret Barnes to be married on signed by her mother Elizabeth Johnson and witnesses by James Barnes and William Barnes. Mercer County court . Not dated, I think it matches with a document signed by James Barnes and Nathan Hawkins 12/7/1824
John Hawkins married Polly Barnes 9/22/1824 in Estill KY …
I believe this Elizabeth to be the daughter of Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne Hawkins as she is said to have first married Fielding Barnes and second have married Robert Johnson.
Smith Hawkins Married Margaret Lane Barnes 11/5/1845 Anderson Co KY signed by Richard H Paxton , guardian and witnessed by James D Paxton and EL Paxton. Permission for Margaret Barnes to marry was signed by by Sarah Barnes, guardian and witnessed by William Hawkins and Mary Barns
There are also some more Hawkins/Barnes marriages in the below screen shot from Milly Farmer's book.
There are also some more Hawkins/Barnes marriages in the below screen shot from Milly Farmer's book.
Joanna also sent me a marriage that I had seen before that is of interest to this blog post:
The original evidence is John Hawkins and Milly Barnes marriage bond (original found on familysearch.org) in Mercer Co KY. Reuben Boston posted bond and signed with John on Dec 3 1808. Feilden (Fielding) Barnes and Reuben Boston appeared before the Justice of the Peace and made an oath that Milla (Milly) Barnes, daughter of William Barnes is 21 years old.
My own personal research indicates that Reuben Boston was married to one of Benjamin and Nancy/Ann Bourne Hawkins' daughters. Reuben signed the document in which each of the heirs of Benjamin gave up their part of the land that was inherited by the group of children in return for $2000. I believe that he was signing for his wife's part of the inheritance. I believe that Reuben was married to daughter, Sarah. Fielding Barnes was married to Benjamin and Ann/Nancy's daughter, Elizabeth when the above marriage took place. Fielding died young in 1810 according to other researchers.
So we know who the men were and how they were related to the Hawkins line in the above. But which John Hawkins is it that is marrying Milly Barnes in 1808? Most of the children of Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne Hawkins were born 1769 to 1785. I think that many of us have assumed that the son of Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne Hawkins who had name John was John B. Hawkins (and that likely the B. stood for Bourne). What do we know about John B. Hawkins? He first married Mahala Randolph in Culpeper County in 1795. That is a good date for marriage for one of the older children of Benjamin and Ann/Nancy. He second married Ann Ford. After his marriage to Ann Ford in 1812, he and Ann moved to Kentucky where they had perhaps six children. It is definitely NOT John B. Hawkins! He is not in Kentucky in 1808. Is the John Hawkins marrying Milly Barnes a grandson of Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne Hawkins? And it is his two uncles who are named in the marriage above...or an uncle and his father? Or perhaps the idea that John B. Hawkins is the son of Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne Hawkins is not correct. John B. is said to have died in Owen County Kentucky which is not next door to Mercer County where Benjamin and Ann/Nancy Bourne Hawkins died.
Joanna says about her John Hawkins:
John who married Milly Barnes and is Vardimans father was born in 1787 in Virginia and died between the 1860 and 1870 census. I think he is a son of Benjamin and Nancy Ann borne and the brother of Abraham. I’m thinking Abraham was born in 1776?
Milly Farmer says about this family group:
I find that in my VERY unproven data base, I have attributed this group to the orphan William and given him wife, Mary Margaret Smith. Then the son of this couple as Elisha who is named above. Dot Hawkins and her daughter believe that they descend from the orphan William Hawkins
Note: when I use the term orphan in talking about Hawkins family group #1, I am talking about the generation born in the early 1700s who are named in the will of John Hawkins who died in what was probably an epidemic c. 1715 in Richmond County, Virginia:
http://marshamoses.blogspot.com/2012/11/will-of-john-hawkins-of-richmond-county.html
Ok, I am so totally confused that I quit for the day. I may have to redo the entire blog post?
