Monday, January 29, 2018

Hawkins in Pike County, Missouri

I heard from Willetta Heising this morning telling me a bit about her Hawkins ancestors.  Willetta has done a good deal of autosomal DNA testing and has joined out autosomal group.  Here is her note:


So happy to hear from you. I've printed a copy of your message and will follow those instructions tomorrow. Meanwhile, my HAWKINS line is fairly brief at present. My maternal great-grandmother is Beulah Belle HAWKINS (1882-1959). Her parents were John M. HAWKINS (1854-1922) and Amelia SHUTT (1862-after 1922). John M's parents were John R. HAWKINS (born 1801 KY) and Harriet HARDIN (1802-1870). Pike County, Missouri figures prominently in this line. Beulah Belle was born there and her parents were married there.

This is the first surname project I have joined. I have taken the autosomal test at Ancestry and 23 and Me, along with the mtDNA test at Family Tree.......
Thanks again for reaching out. .....

Willetta Heising

Friday, January 19, 2018

Hawkins Family Group #1 autosomal Match

When it rains, it pours!  Very happy autosomal match that led to a connection between the Short Mountain subgroup of Family Group #1 and a Hawkins group in Illinois!

Erin e-mailed me that detective work on an ancestor named Mary/Polly Tinney who married a John Hawkins led to discovery of an autosomal match on Ancestry which connected her results to a Hawkins male's kit in Illinois.  This led Erin to do some research that clarifies many questions about the Hawkins family that is found in Madison County, Kentucky after the Revolutionary War.  The family moves to Warren County, TN between 1807 and 1810 where some of them are still living to this day.  However part of them moved instead to Illinois.

Here are two older blog posts that I wrote last year with the help of several of the Short Mountain TN subgroup of Family Group #1:

The following is information sent to Erin by her autosomal matches' wife:

The HAWKINS Journey
This was a very complicated journey and I want to walk you through it the best that I can.

We knew that John Hawkins children: Reuben T, Griffith T, John D, Joshua and Bathsheba were born in Tennessee but where?
Several years ago I took a blank 1820 and 1830 census form and filled them out with John and his children. Then I checked the whole state of TN for a John and family that would fit. I only found 2 and they were both in Warren Co., TN. I looked at the 1820 first and they could fit in with both John’s but in the 1830 census they could only fit with one and almost perfect except we are missing one son.
I started checking this John out and found that he was born in Virginia and moved to Madison Co., Kentucky and then moved to Warren Co., TN with his Mother, brother’s and sister’s between 1807 and 1810. They were all there by 1812. I think they moved in two groups.
His father Joseph SR was born in 1747 in Spotsylvania, VA. and died in 1803 in Madison Co., KY.
I have a copy of his will.
His mother Susannah Petty born 1848 and died May 1823 in TN
Martha Patsy 1772-1845 md Richard Boucher (Butcher)
John 1771-1840’s md Polly Tinney
Joseph JR 1773-1820 md Charity Miller 

Susannah 1775-1853 md William Campbell
Sarah 1781-1830 md John Pitts​
Reuben 1785-1851 never married
They were all married in Madison Co., KY.
They all appear in the census records for Warren and Cannon Co’s. , TN. I don’t think that they moved, the boundaries just changed. Cannon was formed in 1836 from Warren and other counties.
I could not find any more about John and his family so I just put everything away. I was sure that I had the right family but could not prove it.
I decided to go back and do more research on the Moore line. Mary Elizabeth Moore is the grandmother of Ida Mae Beach Hawkins who married William Rasmus Hawkins 2 Dec 1903. I was checking the information about her brother, Emery G Moore 1833-1912.
His second marriage was to a Elizabeth Williams (Maiden name Biggs) born 1836 in Illinois.
I remembered that John Dillard Hawkins ( Griffith’s brother) in the 1850 census had some Biggs children living with him. Jonathan 19 born 1831, Elizabeth 13 born 1837 and Sarah Ann 11 born 1839. I always wondered who they belong to.
I found out that their father was Bennett Biggs 1793-1849
Mother was Elizabeth Hawkins born 3 Nov 1802 Kentucky - died 16 Oct 1846 Fayette Co., IL. Buried in the Pratt Cemetery. She was from Warren County, Tenn. and her father’s name was John Hawkins.
I had just found another daughter for our John, his first child Elizabeth, who married Bennett Biggs in Warren Co., TN. probably about 1820 or 1821.

Bennett Biggs was the key that opened the door.
He lived by Richard Butcher, William Campbell and John Hawkins in 1830 in Warren Co., TN census.
He moved with John Hawkins and family to Clinton Co., IL about 1833.
He married Reuben T Hawkins in 1834 in Clinton Co., IL*****
He married Griffith T Hawkins in 1834 in Clinton Co., IL******
He lived next to Joshua Hawkins and Griffith Hawkins in the 1840 Fayette Co., IL Census.
( I think that the male living with Joshua (70-80) is our John Hawkins)
He died 30 Oct. 1849 Fayette Co., IL. Buried in Pratt Cemetery, Fayette Co., IL
His 3 children went to live with their Uncle John Dillard Hawkins
I told Karen, my niece, what I had found and we started looking again. There were 3 John Hawkins in Madison Co., KY at the same time. One was married to a Polly Finney 12 Mar. 1801 but we did not know if this was the right one or not. We ruled out the one married to a Rhoda Crook.
One day I was looking through the Land Records again for Griffith T Hawkins in Fayette Co., IL and I saw in the 1840 and the 1844 record’s they have his name as Griffith Tinney Hawkins . I had always thought this just was a mistake. In rechecking I thought, the Land records should be correct and they both were showing the same thing 4 years apart. I told Karen that Tinney and Finney were really close. As I was talking to Karen I was going through a folder and a found a record from Family Search that had a John Hawkins and a Polly Turner married 11 Mar 1801 in Madison Co., KY. I told her that I had checked this Polly Turner out and did not find anything. Karen went on Family Search and put in John Hawkins and Polly Tinney and there was their marriage record showing they got married Mar 12, 1801 in Madison Co., KY.
We believe that Griffith’s middle name was Tinney and not Tomey and that he was named after his mother Mary (Polly) Tinney. We know that she was still alive in 1834 when Reuben was married by Bennett Biggs because she gave her consent.
We feel that all this proves at long last, that John Hawkins and Polly Carney who were married in Maury Co., TN in 1816 and had one child in the 1820 Maury Co., TN census is not our John, the father of our Reuben T, Griffith T, John D, Joshua, and Bathsheba. 
We are still missing 4 sons and maybe 1 daughter from the 1820 Warren Co., TN census
If you are having trouble following all this just imagine trying to find it all.
Have fun looking all this up and see what your conclusions are.

(Signature of author of above withheld until permission to use name)
Erin's Ancestry match's line:  Ronald Harold Hawkins, William Harold Hawkins, William Rasmus Hawkins, Lewis Foster Hawkins, Griffith Tinney Hawkins, John Hawkins, Joseph Hawkins , etc.

I would add that we have at least two yDNA participants who represent this Hawkins family line:  Bret Hawkins and Mike Hawkins (I paid for Mike's kit many years ago and he graciously did the test to prove that Elaine and I were looking at the same Hawkins family line).  Both are part of Hawkins yDNA family group #1.

Wednesday, January 17, 2018

Autosomal DNA match to Family Group #1

As luck would have it, the very week that I would work on trying to find a way to help Hawkins autosomal DNA matches make better use of their matches, I heard from Lena.  Lena has agreed to my making her information public.  I will add it to the Family Finder page today even though it is actually an Ancestry site kit.  She has also given me her gedmatch number.  Lena says that her Ancestry circle is  the Benjamin Hawkins and Hannah Chambers DNA Circle.

We know from yDNA results of the son of Dot Hawkins that Benjamin and Hannah Chambers Hawkins of Buncombe County, NC were a part of Family Group #1.  We think it likely that Benjamin descends from one of the orphans of John and Elizabeth Hawkins who died in Richmond County, Virginia in what was probably an epidemic.  Lucky for us John made a last minute will in which he named all six of his orphans:  William, Benjamin, John and James and two daughters Elizabeth and Sarah.  Dot's daughter has been working on proving the connection of her ancestor Benjamin of Buncombe to William Hawkins found in Bedford/Campbell County, Virginia and then back perhaps to the oldest of John and Elizabeth's orphans, William.  We in family group #1 have taken to call him William the plasterer because his father asks in his will for Henry Wood to teach him the trade of plasterer.  We have no reason to believe that he actually learned the trade nor practiced the trade in his adulthood.  But it is a way to sort this man out from all of the William Hawkins who existed in this time frame.  I don't know where Dot's daughter is in her research at this point.  I have sent out an e-mail asking Dot to put me in touch with her.

Tuesday, January 16, 2018

Autosomal DNA tests

I find that the Hawkins yDNA project has absolutely no way to help those of us who have taken the autosomal test at FTDNA (Family Finder) or Ancestry or any of the other companies that offer this test.  I should also mention Gedmatch.  So I am asking those of you who joined the Hawkins yDNA project but don't have a yDNA match to anyone with the Hawkins surname to go to the FTDNA site and Choose projects on one's sign in page.  Then choose manage projects from the pull down menu at the top of the page, and then beside the Hawkins project choice, choose Leave the project.  Then we as a group will try to find a way for the Hawkins DNA blog site (which is where you are right now) to work to help us all find our autosomal matches who have Hawkins connections.

I have some ideas on possibilities on how to do this, but I don't know if they will work until we try them.  I have added a tab at the top of this page that says:  Family Finder Participants.  However, I am happy to add all autosomal kit identifications that anyone wants to send me on any of the sites including Ancestry and Gedmatch.  If you don't mind sharing your contact information publicly, I will put it on the blog.  Then I will try to put links to blog posts on which we can discuss how we believe that we connect to each other.  Please only send me kit information for people who believe that they connect to a Hawkins family.  If you know which family group to which you connect, send me that as well.  If you don't know to which family group your Hawkins line connects, I'll put you in a unmatched group.  Please help me figure out the best way to make this work.  We'll chip away until we get something to work.

Ok I am updating this message a few days later.  A very nice man has left the project because he is not yDNA.  I want to write and thank him.  And I also want to see what I can do to help him with his autosomal matches with Hawkins connections.  What I forgot is that once he leaves the project I can no longer look up his e-mail.  So don't forget to e-mail me if you have any questions etc when you leave the project.

Saturday, November 11, 2017

Family Group #6

David Hawkins recently agreed to make some of his Hawkins ancestry public.    He is a match to other participant who form Family Group #6.  His family tree should be of great interest to family group #6.

Group-06 Participant #493779

...1 Thomas Hawkins
…...2  William Hawkins, b. May 29, 1805 Fareham, Hampshire, England; d. Mar 1890, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
…......3  George Hawkins, b. 1858 Porchester, Hampshire, England; d. Aug 28, 1929 Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
….........4  Earnest Hawkins, b. Nov 11, 1888 England; d. May 14, 1972, Vicksburg, Michigan USA
................5  Robert Hawkins, b. July 12, 1916 Kalamazoo, Michigan USA; d. Feb 24, 1991 Kalamazoo, Michigan USA
…................6  Participant 493779 
Why is this so helpful?  Because David's ancestors moved to these shores quite late.  Earnest Hawkins who died in Vicksburg, Michigan was born in England in 1888, so he moved probably in the early 1900s.  And David has good documentation explaining where Earnest's ancestors had lived in England for at least two or three generations.  There is at least some probability that the other Hawkins participants in this family group #6 may have had a connection to this same area of England.

Here are some maps explaining where David's ancestors lived.  The first map shows the general area in which they are found.  The red outline is the area of Southampton.

In the second map we can see where Fareham is located in this general area:

Wikipedia tells us that Alverstroke is a parish

Until the early 19th century, the parish of Alverstoke measured some 4.5 miles from north to south, and 2.5 miles from east to west, covering most of present-day Gosport. The parish still stretched north, adjoining Fareham and Titchfield parishes.,[3] south to the Solent, east as far as Portsmouth Harbour, and west to the parish of Rowner, into the 20th century. However, large parts of the north and east of the parish were split into separate parishes between 1840 and 1913.

Wednesday, October 11, 2017

Autosomal evidence for John Hawkins of Wicklow

This morning I heard from Gina Meyers about her Hawkins family line connection. Her family has roots in County Wicklow, Ireland...... just south of Dublin.

 Here is information in her own words about this family:

I am descended from John HAWKINS (b.1810-d.1900) of Wicklow. John was a farmer in Cranareen, and married Mary Ellen WILSON in 1837. He had three daughters – Rebecca (my 2 x gr.grandmother), Elizabeth and Mary Ann. The family's oral history does not mention any sons.

I have speculated that John was the second child of Thomas HAWKINS and Rebecca DAGG of Rustyduff and Killibeg. My reasoning goes like this :
(i) Thomas and Rebecca are known to have a son named John b.c.1810
(ii) John's oldest daughter was named Rebecca.
(iii) John was farming in Cranareen which is “right next door” to Rustiduff.
(iv) The person who registered John's death in 1900 was Edward ALLEN, who I believe to be the son of Elizabeth HAWKINS (Thomas and Rebecca's fifth child) and Edward ALLEN.

However, I know that there is another John HAWKINS of Wicklow who emigrated to Canada and married Eliza MOORE, and it is suggested that he was the son of Thomas and Rebecca. I believe that the evidence for this is that :
(i) He also was b.c. 1810.
(ii) Other sons of Thomas and Rebecca had emigrated to the same area in Canada.
(iii) Other DAGG descendants had emigrated to the same area in Canada.
(iv) John died in 1853 in Canada. In 1855 in Ireland, Thomas - and his second wife, Mary MOODY - had a son whom they named John. It's believed that the child born in 1855 was given the name John because his older half-brother was the John who had died in Canada a year or two earlier.

I'm not aware of any paper trail which might allow us to distinguish between the two John HAWKINS men, and I hoped that DNA evidence might help to clarify which John really was the son of Thomas and Rebecca.

Autosomal DNA evidence from FTDNA and Gedmatch appears to suggest that there is a familial connection between my John and the family of Thomas and Rebecca, although it's not clear what the relationship is.

I have one match with a known descendant of Thomas and Rebecca.
I have one match with another “probable” descendant of Thomas and Rebecca.
I am aware of two known descendants of Thomas and Rebecca with whom I have no DNA match.

If I am correct in my theory that my John was the son of Thomas and Rebecca, then all the relationships here are around 4th cousin (give or take a removal) - and so absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.

I would love to know whether there are others associated with Thomas HAWKINS and Rebecca DAGG of Rustiduff and Killibeg who have tested and might be able to shed any light on the puzzle. Thomas married twice and had 25 children in total, and so there are many, many descendants out there.

With best regards,

Thursday, September 14, 2017

Family group #2

The Participant who was sponsored by Richard Wilstead falls into family group #2.  This is also the family group that Sandi Vaught's research would lead her to believe her family would connect.  Richard's research connects him to Manoah/Noah Hawkins who died in 1814 in Montgomery County, Virginia.  His birth date is circa 1767.  Manoah/Noah was married to Susannah Reynolds.  I had been told that Susannah was born in Botetourt County, Virginia and probably the couple married there.  However, if you look at the comment below, you will see that it is unlikely that Susannah was born in Botetourt County as her father does not show up in the tax lists until 1787 and Susannah is said to have been born in 1772.

Sandi believes her family line that goes back to Jehu Dyer Hawkins born 25 Aug 1756.  Most likely scenario is that Manoah/Noah is the nephew of Jehu Dyer.  William Hawkins who died in Franklin County, Kentucky in 1818 is father of Manoah/Noah and brother to Jehu Dyer Hawkins.