Wednesday, October 11, 2017

Autosomal evidence for John Hawkins of Wicklow

This morning I heard from Gina Meyers about her Hawkins family line connection. Her family has roots in County Wicklow, Ireland...... just south of Dublin.

 Here is information in her own words about this family:

I am descended from John HAWKINS (b.1810-d.1900) of Wicklow. John was a farmer in Cranareen, and married Mary Ellen WILSON in 1837. He had three daughters – Rebecca (my 2 x gr.grandmother), Elizabeth and Mary Ann. The family's oral history does not mention any sons.

I have speculated that John was the second child of Thomas HAWKINS and Rebecca DAGG of Rustyduff and Killibeg. My reasoning goes like this :
(i) Thomas and Rebecca are known to have a son named John b.c.1810
(ii) John's oldest daughter was named Rebecca.
(iii) John was farming in Cranareen which is “right next door” to Rustiduff.
(iv) The person who registered John's death in 1900 was Edward ALLEN, who I believe to be the son of Elizabeth HAWKINS (Thomas and Rebecca's fifth child) and Edward ALLEN.

However, I know that there is another John HAWKINS of Wicklow who emigrated to Canada and married Eliza MOORE, and it is suggested that he was the son of Thomas and Rebecca. I believe that the evidence for this is that :
(i) He also was b.c. 1810.
(ii) Other sons of Thomas and Rebecca had emigrated to the same area in Canada.
(iii) Other DAGG descendants had emigrated to the same area in Canada.
(iv) John died in 1853 in Canada. In 1855 in Ireland, Thomas - and his second wife, Mary MOODY - had a son whom they named John. It's believed that the child born in 1855 was given the name John because his older half-brother was the John who had died in Canada a year or two earlier.

I'm not aware of any paper trail which might allow us to distinguish between the two John HAWKINS men, and I hoped that DNA evidence might help to clarify which John really was the son of Thomas and Rebecca.

Autosomal DNA evidence from FTDNA and Gedmatch appears to suggest that there is a familial connection between my John and the family of Thomas and Rebecca, although it's not clear what the relationship is.

I have one match with a known descendant of Thomas and Rebecca.
I have one match with another “probable” descendant of Thomas and Rebecca.
I am aware of two known descendants of Thomas and Rebecca with whom I have no DNA match.

If I am correct in my theory that my John was the son of Thomas and Rebecca, then all the relationships here are around 4th cousin (give or take a removal) - and so absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.

I would love to know whether there are others associated with Thomas HAWKINS and Rebecca DAGG of Rustiduff and Killibeg who have tested and might be able to shed any light on the puzzle. Thomas married twice and had 25 children in total, and so there are many, many descendants out there.

With best regards,

Thursday, September 14, 2017

Family group #2

The Participant who was sponsored by Richard Wilstead falls into family group #2.  This is also the family group that Sandi Vaught's research would lead her to believe her family would connect.  Richard's research connects him to Manoah/Noah Hawkins who died in 1814 in Montgomery County, Virginia.  His birth date is circa 1767.  Manoah/Noah was married to Susannah Reynolds.  Susannah was born in Botetourt County, Virginia and probably the couple married there.

Sandi believes her family line that goes back to Jehu Dyer Hawkins born 25 Aug 1756.  Most likely scenario is that Manoah/Noah is the nephew of Jehu Dyer.  William Hawkins who died in Franklin County, Kentucky in 1818 is father of Manoah/Noah and brother to Jehu Dyer Hawkins.

Wednesday, September 13, 2017

Jehu Dyer Hawkins

Sandi Vaught and I are hanging out in Orange, Virginia doing Hawkins research.  Our big find of the day was the marriage bond of Jehu Dyer Hawkins Mary Gaines (widow).  The bond is dated 25th day of Oct 1780.  The couple lived in Orange County until 1780.  Next they are found in Culpeper County until 1791.  Sandi finds them next in Botetourt County, Virginia when Jehu's daughter, Elizabeth, married Thomas Parker in 1797 in Botetourt County.  Next Sandi finds them in the 1810 census record in Barren County, Kentucky.  Sandi believes they may have been in Kentucky as early as 1801. 

The huge importance of the below document is that the index calls the groom Sebree.  Jehu seems to have used both the name Jehu and the name John.   On this marriage bond he clearly spells his name as Jehu!  He did have a son who went by both the name Jehu and John.  In this son's will he calls himself John D.  We think the D stands for Dier.  

Arculous was security for the marriage.  It likely that the two men are related.  And possible that they are brothers.

Sandi's Jehu Hawkins (b. 25 Aug 1756) married the widow Mary Gaines in Orange County, Virginia 25 Oct 1780.  As far as Sandi knows this is the first use of the name Jehu in this family.  But it became a family tradition to use both the names Jehu and John in every generation after this until at least 1860.

Jehu and Mary Gaines had a son named John Hawkins who died 1812 in Barren
County, Kentucky.  He had no will, but Sandi has ascertained that he left a wife and two children when he died.  She has names for the family he left. He also had a son Jehu Dyer Hawkins b 17 December 1785.  This Jehu left a will dated 5 March 1883 in Edmonson County, Kentucky. This second generation Jehu Hawkins used the names John Hawkins and Jehu Hawkins interchangeably.  In his will he used John D Hawkins. This Jehu also
had sons Jehu D and John. Jehu 1785-1883.  The second generation son Jehu followed the family tradition naming sons Jehu Dyer and John Hawkins. In addition he also had a son named Elias B Hawkins.  Elias continued the tradition and named sons Jehu D. and John L.   To make this even more confusing another son of the first Jehu named Henry George Hawkins also had sons Jehu D. and John Henry.  And the grandson of the first Jehu who was named Henry George Hawkins also named sons Jehu D. and John B.

Friday, June 9, 2017

Autosomal DNA

I have to say that I was blown away this week by a new match on FTDNA to my own Family Finder test.  I guess that I hadn't looked in several months.  I was showing a buddy what to expect if they bought the family finder while it is on sale this week at $69.  And ....oh, my gosh,  I had a new match!  It is a new VERY close match.  The only person who matches me more closely is my MOTHER!  I was practically screaming:  Who are you?  How can someone who is that close of a match be someone that I don't know?  And the answer is that the man who is my match was adopted at birth.  He is looking for his birth parents.  And certainly his match to me tells him who his father is.  Perhaps not conclusively without some extra details about his own age, whereabouts etc....but I don't know when I have been more surprised.

The DNA is amazing!

Thursday, March 9, 2017

Family Group #1

Sandi Vaught e-mailed me tonight with a few questions.  She does not have a proven connection to Family Group #1.  However as I started answering some questions that she posed, I found myself sharing with her information that would connect to Family Group #1 in Orange County, Virginia.  Rather than just answer her privately, I wanted to post some of this information for future referral as I believe that it is possible that it may have some clues for me in my personal research.

I will put Sandi's connection in this spot after I receive permission from her and after I get my head straight about her line.

So first question she asked:

I still want to know who these Wm Hawkins are:

Wm Hawkins that lived on Cook’s Run 1742-1748 and seems to be listed as in the fork of the Pamunkey (NorthAnna) in 1752?
So I rummaged in my data bases and began to answer:

Ok….let me think about this….If he is on the Pamunkey,/North Anna, he is in Orange or Louisa.  I will assume Orange since you are most interested in that county.  Could it say the North fork of the Pamunkey?  That is the other name for the North Anna….and changes what I think….if he is in the fork, I would think that it would mean literally that place where the N. Anna and S. Anna meet….but if it says the North Fork of the Pamunkey, I think that it might have been anywhere along the North Anna….And that is VERY interesting to me!

This is not the William who was the son of Benjamin and Sarah Willis.  That son would not have been old enough yet.  I think it unlikely that any of the orphans of John and Elizabeth (Butler?) Hawkins would have had children old enough to have been this man.  He could have been the William who was a brother to Benjamin Hawkins who married Sarah Willis…..that is the orphan William who we call the plasterer.  What do I know about him?  Not a whole lot.  Others have told me that his wife’s name was Elizabeth.

Here is what I have in my data base…..remember VERY iffy!

Craig Kilby believes that the Will of William Hawkins of Orange County dated 20 Jan 1776 is that of this man.  Wanita also guessed that the will may have belonged to this man. He names son, John, Wife Elizabeth, son, William, and son Benjamin.   Uriel Mallory and Wm Strother and Thomas Brown are witnesses.

I am adding this interpretation of the will March 2005:

This is an abstract of the will of William Hawkins of the County of Orange and Parish of Sat. Thomas, being weak in body, dated 20 Jan. 1776.

Unto my son John Hawkins two cows and calves whenever he leaves of overseeing and goes to house keeping.
To my beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins all the residue of my estate during her natural life and after her decease to be divided as follows:
Unto my son William Hawkins twenty shillings sterling if he should be living at the time of my decease and if dead to descend to my son John Hawkins.
Unto my son Benjamin Hawkins one shilling current money.
Unto my son John Hawkins all the rest of my estate. 
My beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins executrix and my son John Hawkins executor.  William Hawkins
Wit: Uriel Mallory, Wm Strother, Thomas Brown
Proved 24 Oct 1776

Ok my notes say that this William was probably the son of John Hawkins and Elizabeth Butler--brother to Benjamin Hawkins (Benj1) who married Sarah Willis.

Wanita says:
Dear Marsha,
I thought that the sons--William, and Benjamin, named in the will are probably the William hawkins noted later with a will of about 1795, and the Benjamin with a will of 1782, and wife, Juda.  That is also an assumption, as the dates and l,ocations seem to fit.  I know others have made other deductions. Several claim the son, John went to N C?

John is said to have died in 1716 in Richmond county, virginia.  It seems that he died young as he his will provides for young children.  Placing them with other men to provide that they will learn skills to use for their livlihood.  He specifically asks Henry Wood to take William (husband of Sarah Willis Wood Hudson Tuberville) to teach him the trade of plaster.  So this William would have been born in either the end of the 1600's or the first decade of the 1700's.  Which is a likely time for man dying in 1776.  The thing that catches my attention here  is the witnesses.  I believe that my Benjamin and Thomas Hawkins lived very close to Mallory's Ford....Then certainly we know that the Hawkins/Bourne line was entertwined with the Strother family---Moses married and had children with Susannah Strother--her father was named William Strother and it is very likely her father who is acting as witness here.  So it makes sense that this William is indeed the brother of Benj1. 

The red arrow points to a creek that is now called Cooks Creek (not Run)....but only Cooks Creek/Run in Orange.

Oh, my gosh, Sandi, that is soooooooo close to where my Thomas R. Hawkins' uncle Benjamin lived.   “On the thirtieth day of October, in the year 1813, seventeen males and an unknown number of females, met in the home of Brother Hawkins, about three and a half miles south of Orange.

And then when My Thomas R. Hawkins married she second wife, Martha Bibb, she pays a debt to obtain land on the North Anna River at Mallory's Ford:

 it being the same tract or parcel of land sold under a deed of Trust executed by the said Thomas R. Hawkins to John Scott to secure a debt to the late John Heaston and purchased by John Ellis as trustee under the said marriage settlement for the benefit of the said Martha P. Hawkins and conveyed by deed bearing the date the 18th day of March 1847 duly recorded in the Lerk’s Office of Orange County Court by John Scott trustee as aforesaid the said John Ellis for the use and benefit of the said Martha P. Hawkins and paid for out of the funds secured to her, by the said settlement. 

 It seems to me that this implies that this land has been in the Hawkins family and that Martha is just paying off the debt in order to obtain ownership of the land again.  Martha and Thomas Hawkins live on that land for the rest of Martha's life.  She pays taxes on it for many years and then sells it to her husband for $1 before she died.  Maybe my own Hawkins family is connected to William the plaster instead of Benjamin and Sarah Willis!  

There would be another generation in between this William and uncle Benjamin.  But it would narrow fathers to:  John, Benjamin and William....almost no help at all, huh?  Still it is very interesting. 

OK next William:

Wm Hawkins that lived on Blackwalnut Run, Mine Run, bound Wm Strother and Thos Morrison. 1772-1782?
(land Wm and Elizabeth Hawkins sold to Wm Pannell Son of the above, Elisha Hawkins witnessed)

What where their connection to Wm Pannell and Sarah Bailey.? Just chance?

Ok, let me think some more......Ok, Benjamin and Sarah Willis's sons are old enough to have owned land by this date and the fact that son Moses married Susannah Strother makes them most likely candidates for this William....that is the William who married Jane Bourne is most likely candidate to have land near Wm Strother.  However, I do not have an Elisha Hawkins among the Hawkins/Bourne family....that doesn't mean that there isn't one that I don't know.

I have two Elisha Hawkins's in my John and Mary NOTLong data base (remember iffy!).  One is Elisha Son of William and Elizabeth Wall (William died c.1799)who married Elizabeth Edwards (daughter of Uriah who made some kind of alcoholic beverage at home instead of attending his daughter's wedding according to Milly Farmer)

Jehu is mentioned in my notes for this Elisha:

Elisha moved to Ky and  it is thought that Elizabeth did not accompany them.  It is  not known if she died or just didn’t want to leave Virginia.  

Jehu also gave a deposition in Elisha Hawkins application both living in Franklin County, KY.  Elisha's statement says:
 "but I only know of one person now living that I can prove my
service: Mr Jehu Hawkins. I was once on furlough to my recollection being sick permitted to return home & he went back to the army with me on private business
 I remember thinking while I was reading Jehu's deposition that he knew lots of details about the service of Elisha (Elijah).

On page 114 of Milly Farmer’s book there is a sworn declaration from Rebecca that her husband served in the Revolutionary war with brother Elisha in regiment of Col John Spotswood under Capt Francis Taylor.  

The other Elisha in my data base is the son of Reuben Hawkins and Rebecca Edwards.  Rebecca Edwards is a sister to Elizabeth Edwards who married who married the other Elisha.  Could this be right?  But both brides seem to be daughters of Uriah Edwards.  And this second Elisha may have been named after his father's brother, Elisha.....BUT one Elisha is a different generation from the other while the brides are sisters....something seems inconsistent.  Do you have corrections for my ideas?

The last Wm Hawkins is one that is the indentured slave, his master was Edward Pigg. 

I can only say that I do not know anything about this last Wm Hawkins nor do I know anything about Edward Pigg.  Anyone else have any ideas?   

Sunday, March 5, 2017

Deeds on both sides of the Rapidan River in Virginia

Many of us who are part of Hawkins DNA group #1 expect to connect back to the Culpeper/Orange County area in the early to mid 1700s.  We have been chatting about how to sort out the various Williams, Johns, and Benjamins.  And I think that all agree that deeds can be helpful.  So I propose that we begin to type in the deeds for both Culpeper and Orange County as one county is north of the Rapidan and the other county is south of the Rapidan.  A likely place to settle if you are moving up the Rappahannock River from Richmond County into new neighborhoods.

1764  [this abstraction is taken from: Culpeper County, Virginia Deeds Volume Three       1762-1765 abstracted and Compiled by John Frederick Dorman
Culpeper pages 557-62.  10 Oct. 1764.  William Hawkins and Elizabeth his wife of Brumfield Parish, Culpeper County, to Martain Nalle and William Duncan, gent, Church Wardens of Brumfield Parish.  For 130 pounds of current money.  355 acres for a Glebe for the parish for the use and benefit of the incumbent of the parish and his successors....on Devil's Run being a part of 785 acres granted to Frances Thornton, Gent., of Caroline County by deed from the Proprietor's Office 23 Jan 1747 [1748] and by Thornton sold to William Buckner, gent, and by Buckner sold to William Hawkins....on the road to Devil's Run at the bridge, a corner to James Sims.....up the road....corner to James Sims in Doctor Thomas Houison's line....corner to James Johnson and Samuel Coleman....corner to Thomas Kennerlei's deed on a branch side....

                                                                  William Hawkins
                                                                   Elizabeth (X) Hawkins
Wit: Thomas Covington, John Sanders, James McDonald, Richard Parks.
18 Oct 1764.  Acknowledged by William, Elizabeth was first privily examined where was this land on which William and Elizabeth Hawkins lived?  [interesting enough Martain Nalle lived on Devil's Run when he died in 1788 according to FindaGrave]  Here are two maps that help locate this waterway:

And here is a modern map

And who is this William Hawkins living in Culpeper in 1764?  Did he later move down into Orange County and have the will (wife Elizabeth):

This is an abstract of the will of William Hawkins of the County of Orange and Parish of Sat. Thomas, being weak in body, dated 20 Jan. 1776.

Unto my son John Hawkins two cows and calves whenever he leaves of overseeing and goes to house keeping.
To my beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins all the residue of my estate during her natural life and after her decease to be divided as follows:
Unto my son William Hawkins twenty shillings sterling if he should be living at the time of my decease and if dead to descend to my son John Hawkins.
Unto my son Benjamin Hawkins one shilling current money.
Unto my son John Hawkins all the rest of my estate. 
My beloved wife Elizabeth Hawkins executrix and my son John Hawkins executor.  William Hawkins
Wit: Uriel Mallory, Wm Strother, Thomas Brown

Proved 24 Oct 1776

Or is he an entirely different William Hawkins?

The next deeds are my own transcriptions.  I sat in the Orange County courthouse years ago.  At the end of the day, I remember thinking that the people who did transcriptions of records do not charge enough for their books....I would need huge amounts of money to do that job every day.

May 28, 1767
A portion of land owned by John Spotswood was seized at his death for repayment of debts.  Guardians of John's son, Alexander, are selling the seized land for best possible price.  Benjamin Hawkins is buying part of the said estate land.
Description:  Lying in County of Orange and bounded as follows:  Beginning at a gum and poplar white oak stumps on the Rapidan River corner to Mrs. Willis thence with her lines south sixty one degrees East One Hundred and Ten Poles to a locust thence with thirty six degrees East Forty Eight poles is a locust.  Thence South Sixty two degrees east thirty eight poles to a red oak thence North fifty nine degrees East seventy two pols to ????Thence south Fifty two corner of said Willis and Waugh....thence up that branch with Francis Moore.

Saturday, March 4, 2017

Family Group #3

Patty Martin shared a breakthrough on her family line.  Her line connects to Family Group #3.  Her cousin did the yDNA testing that shows their connection to family group #3.  It is kit #371386.   Below is information that Patty shared with me about her family.  However, the new breakthrough is actually via an autosomal test that Patty took through Ancestry:

The DNA test matches I got pretty recently were actually a match with my own test from several years ago on Ancestry.

One match is with a participant who descends from a brother, Michael Hawkins,  of my ggg grandfather David Hawkins of McMinn Co. Tn.  Both brothers were sons of Joseph Hawkins, McMinn Co. Tn. This match descends from Julius J. Hawkins who married Elizabeth Jane Brown.  They married in Murray Co. Ga. in 1875, but moved on to Texas about 1880 where they remained.

Originally I had found David Hawkins living next door to Joseph Hawkins in the census of 1830 McMinn, Tn....My David was the right age to be Joseph's son. David moved from McMinn county before 1836 to Union County Ga. as he is in Union County in the 1840 census with his family. Records from Union County show he was one of several commissioners, active in forming Union as a new county from the time the Indians were run out. At the time, commissioners were the decision makers.  He lived in the Blairsville area.  

The other DNA match to me was with a descendant of Joseph Hawkins sister, Ann Hawkins McKenny. The tree information from the person who matches, says this Joseph Hawkins was the one who married Susannah Williams.

Below is the information that Patty shared about her Hawkins family:

Our 2nd great grandfather is Washington J. Hawkins. I have family pictures, and know his grave site in Cullman County, Alabama,  Arkadelphia Baptist Church cemetery.  He and his wife Rebecca L.Payne Hawkins lived there from about 1870 until their deaths. He died Feb, 1914. Before 1870, He lived in Cherokee Co. Alabama for a time, and his wife was from there.   He was born about 1834 in Ga and I find him in the Georgia census for Murray Co. age 16  a son of David Hawkins and Margaret--- ?.  I have found no concrete info other than that. I find no info on her.  I do believe however that David (born abt 1804) may possibly be the son of Joseph Hawkins and Susannah Williams, who were from McMinn Co. Tn.  In the census records there is a David Hawkins living next to a Joseph in McMinn Co. 1830 and David's children show the correct amt. of children who's ages match. There are Pack families  also in this census, living nearby.

If this is the one, then I found some info on David's sister, Artilissie, who married a Thomas Pack. Other trees show she had a brother David, and Joseph and Susannah the parents. One tree gave note that some of the Pack family had family records suggesting some of the these Hawkins and Packs moved into Georgia "after the Indians were run out"..I was hoping someone related to them has done the test and we could confirm a match. ... I find little info on David, whom I believe died around 1870 or after in Walker Co. Ga (after Walker was formed from Murray Co.) I have found a few land records online, and the last census, I believe 1870 he was living with his son Marion Hawkins there.....

Washington Hawkins applied for a Confederate pension in Alabama which shows his birth as June 5, 1836 in Union County, Georgia. He served as private, 154th Tn. Senior  Regiment of the Infantry, under Capt. Charles D. Cooney, Company F.  He enlisted in Randolph, Tennessee  on May 14, 1861.  He is described as 5 ft. 8 inches,  with dark hair, dark complexion, and blue eyes.

In the census of 1900, and 1910 Washington stated his father was born in Tennessee and his mother in Ga.  The McMinnville Tn. census 1820 has a David Hawkins with one dau. and wife.  living next to Joseph Hawkins and Jeremiah Pack and the Stansbury families.  I am curious as to how this Joseph and David are related. [Remember that this question has been answered]

   I am missing the census of 1860 for Washington, and I haven't been able to find it.  I found a W.J. Hawkins in Texas, but don't think its him. As for David Hawkins, he is found 1860 in Walker Co. Ga. and living with his eldest son, Frances Marion Hawkins, older brother of Washington.

Patty shared a link to Find a grave that has information about her Washington Jones Hawkins and some of his family:

And another discovery was found in a deed:

I have had one important discovery that confirmed my findings regarding my ancestor David Hawkins. Just this week,  I found a record in McMinn Co. Tn. where he sold land.  Date is Oct. 27, 1838, and reads: "David Hawkins of Union County, Georgia,  to John Torbert, place where Thomas Polk now lives, line between Jeremiah Polk and said Hawkins." 
Previously I was not certain that my David was the one from McMinn Co.  I only knew he was born in Tn.
David's son, Washington Hawkins, is my gg grandfather and in his confederate pension application, he stated he was born in Union County, Ga. on June 5, 1836
David is found in the 1840 census of Union County, Georgia.
David is found in the 1850 census of Murray County, Georgia, and son, Washington is 14 years old.  I have a lot of information on the other children of David Hawkins and their families.
I am confident now, that this David Hawkins of Union Co. Ga. is indeed the one from McMinn Co. and further that he is the son of Joseph Hawkins and Susannah Williams of McMinn Co. The parents, and his sisters and one brother, Michael, all lived in the area at least in the beginning.  One of David's sisters, Mary, married Adam Burger.  Another Sister, Artilissie, married Thomas Pack.  Also the Stansbury families in the area are related by marriage through 2 of Artilissie's daughters, who married Stansbury's.

I have found so many trees that mistakenly show a David Hawkins and wife Margaret Alley as the same ones-  but this is not right...this David Hawkins was in Missouri by 1850, and his children are not the same children as in my line.

If you have information to share with Patty or questions, you may reach her via e-mail:

The photo below is Washington J. Hawkins.  He is Patty's 2-gr-grandfather who died in Cullen County, Alabama in 1914.